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Violent Unrest in Allentown
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« on: October 29, 2007, 12:52:37 PM »

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=gmail&hl=en&answer=75725

I use the super-sexy Apple Mail, so this is of great interest to me. If you check your GMail in a browser, get a mail client, or continue to be an E-Caveman  Fuckin' Dog. But with IMAP, every time you check and read your mail at home, the browser version (if you're like me you check your GMail in computer labs a lot) will show that message as read, and vice versa.

For those of you who could care less, here's why IMAP is great and destroys POP:

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Connected and disconnected modes of operation

When using POP3, clients typically connect to the e-mail server briefly, only as long as it takes to download new messages. When using IMAP4, clients often stay connected as long as the user interface is active and download message content on demand. For users with many or large messages, this IMAP4 usage pattern can result in faster response times.

Multiple clients simultaneously connected to the same mailbox

The POP3 protocol requires the currently connected client to be the only client connected to the mailbox. In contrast, the IMAP protocol specifically allows simultaneous access by multiple clients and provides mechanisms for clients to detect changes made to the mailbox by other, concurrently connected, clients.

Access to MIME message parts and partial fetch

Nearly all internet e-mail is transmitted in MIME format, allowing messages to have a tree structure where the leaf nodes are any of a variety of single part content types and the non-leaf nodes are any of a variety of multipart types. The IMAP4 protocol allows clients to separately retrieve any of the individual MIME parts and also to retrieve portions of either individual parts or the entire message. These mechanisms allow clients to retrieve the text portion of a message without retrieving attached files or to stream content as it is being fetched.

Message state information

Through the use of flags defined in the IMAP4 protocol clients can keep track of message state, for example whether or not the message has been read, replied to, or deleted. These flags are stored on the server, so different clients accessing the same mailbox at different times can detect state changes made by other clients. POP3 provides no mechanism for clients to store such state information on the server so if a single user accesses a mailbox with two different POP3 clients, state information--such as whether a message has been accessed--cannot be synchronized between the clients. The IMAP4 protocol supports both pre-defined system flags and client defined keywords, System flags indicate state information such as whether a message has been read. Keywords, which are not supported by all IMAP servers, allow messages to be given one or more tags whose meaning is up to the client. Adding user created tags to messages is an operation supported by some Webmail services, such as Gmail, although generally not using IMAP. (Using IMAP since, October 24, 2007).

Multiple mailboxes on the server

IMAP4 clients can create, rename, and/or delete mailboxes (usually presented to the user as folders) on the server, and move messages between mailboxes. Multiple mailbox support also allows servers to provide access to shared and public folders.

Server-side searches

IMAP4 provides a mechanism for a client to ask the server to search for messages meeting a variety of criteria. This mechanism avoids requiring clients to download every message in the mailbox in order to perform these searches.

Built-in extension mechanism


Reflecting the experience of earlier Internet protocols, IMAP4 defines an explicit mechanism by which it may be extended. Many extensions to the base protocol have been proposed and are in common use. IMAP2bis did not have an extension mechanism, and POP3 now has one defined by RFC 2449.
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« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 12:59:22 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2007, 03:38:02 PM »

You'll have to re-explain all this shit to me when I get my MacBook.
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2007, 03:52:51 PM »

It all works with PC's too Mits, just grab Thunderbird.

Edit: Although IMAP support still hasn't been put in my account settings. (Yes I did sign out and back in) WTF Google?
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2007, 04:07:12 PM »

It all works with PC's too Mits, just grab Thunderbird.

Edit: Although IMAP support still hasn't been put in my account settings. (Yes I did sign out and back in) WTF Google?

My account is newer (switched from omnicommie to danrdelaney over the summer) so maybe that's it. Also, there's definitely some wonkiness going on, and I'm not getting all my messages. Apparently. this has been brought to Google's attention. SOmthing about OS X and Google's IMAP schema.

I WAS SO EXCITED  Argh!
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 03:09:04 PM »

OK IMAP is fine. Also, this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FVme_xIRYk[/youtube]
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2007, 03:40:03 PM »

I <3 Google

Get a real email account Ethan!

Edit: IMAP works now! Yay!
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